Thursday, April 19, 2012

Do we raise the tax-rates to continue the spending?...


Bob Stuart over at the NewsVirginian has a follow-up on last nights Augusta Supervisors meeting where there were numerous comments regarding the budget shortfall and possible tax increases facing the citizens of Augusta County… It appears the majority of the people commenting were against increasing several county taxes that are being looked at, and a small group of organized “special interest” people calling for tax increases to support education programs “and the children”…
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It appears there is once again a small group out their organizing select special interest packs who are only looking at narrow specific aspects of the issue at hand while ignoring the total picture and how it affects ALL of the citizens of Augusta County. Fortunately, as in the past, the facts will come out and many will then look at the total picture instead of what they are “being fed”….

Augusta Supervisors hear diverse comment on tax rate
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By: Bob Stuart News Virginian
Published: April 19, 2012 Updated: April 19, 2012 - 7:30 AM
VERONA, Va. --
Most Augusta County residents who spoke at a public hearing Wednesday night on the county’s tax rate for 2012-13 asked supervisors to look for ways to cut costs and avoid raising both real estate and personal property taxes.

A minority of speakers talked of the needs to pay essential county workers such as teachers, firefighters and Sheriff’s deputies, and said they would support a tax increase.

At the end of the nearly two-hour public hearing, supervisors seemed split on whether to raise real estate taxes 3 cents to the advertised 51 cents per $100, and personal property taxes on cars and trucks 32 cents to $2.57 per $100.

A final decision is likely when the board votes on the tax rate and county budget on May 2.
Augusta County Republican Party Chairman Bill Shirley asked the board members to step away from the immediate budget and look at the long-term debt picture. He said the county’s current debt wouldn’t be paid off until 2032.

He proposed attacking the debt and providing public safety and not raising taxes.
“It’s a great opportunity to take a stand,’’ said Shirley, who said the county could do what the state and federal government have failed to do – cut spending.

Fishersville resident Bruce Richmond, director of the Shenandoah Valley Tea Party Patriots, said he and other residents in that area have already paid additional homeowners insurance funds because of the ISO rating problem the Preston L. Yancey Fire Company had until a recent improvement.

“Go with a balanced budget, cut what you can,’’ Richmond said. “Go through it (the budget) line by line.”

He said school costs could be more frugal by utilizing empty classrooms, but advised not cutting public safety.

Fishersville resident Curt Lilly said while there are plenty of worthy causes it is time to take a stand “and say no to everyone asking for money. There are lots of good ideas but you still need to say no.”

Augusta County resident and Shenandoah Valley Governor’s School teacher Leonard Klein said he could afford to pay a little more in taxes so that his students could receive the benefits.

Starke Smith said staff and funding for county schools have been cut in recent years, and said it was important to fund teachers, firemen and police. “Three cents is the very minimum. I would have voted for 5 cents,’’ Smith said.

Some Supervisors are waiting to see what the state budget that was passed on Wednesday means to Augusta County before making a decision on a tax increase.

Others have decided. Middle River Supervisor Larry Wills said the county has already looked at cuts in its budget, and won’t replace Assistant County Administrator John McGehee when he retires in a few months.

“I don’t like a tax increase but I don’t like shortchanging essential services,’’ said Wills, who supports the increase.

Board Chairman Tracy Pyles said he could not support raising taxes until all options have been explored, and that includes using county capital money to meet needs in next year’s budget.

North River Supervisor Marshall Pattie read a lengthy statement.
Pattie spoke of how he had met residents in his district on the economic edge who are struggling to keep going.

“I talked to one family who stopped driving their truck because the cost of gas is too high to run it,’’ he said.

He supports using county capital reserves to pay the added costs in next year’s budget, and not raising taxes.
“We have a surplus of taxpayer money. Let’s use taxpayer money that has already been provided to us to cover our short-term expenditures before we go back and ask for more money,’’ Pattie said.

Other supervisors said they were eager to see the county’s final state funding from the General Assembly.

“I will wait to see what the state did on funding,’’ said South River Supervisor David Beyeler.
Riverheads Supervisor Mike Shull said he did not want to raise taxes, and said he would wait to see the state funding.

Beverley Manor Supervisor David Karaffa said he was concerned about specific line items he thought still needed to be cut, including the $20,000 per year the county pays a General Assembly lobbyist to advocate for Augusta County.

“This is an unnecessary expenditure and I won’t vote for a budget with this in it,’’ he said.

6 comments:

  1. Catch the guy that is a teacher over at the Governors school and says he is willing to pay more in taxes so his students can get more "benefits"...

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  2. Appears politics in Augusta County is backwards. Republicans supporting a tax increase and Democrats against a tax increase. And I thought D.C politics was screwed up!!!

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  3. Seems the BOS Chairman Pyles, Democrat, is against a tex increase and wants to spend the rainy day fund while the Republicans are looking for a tax increase that will bring in funds every year... But yet we avoid the real question which is are we spending the revenue wisely or not. Many are once again playing the "education" card once again and want to trap those against or questioning more education spending as being against the children. But are we spending the money the correct way already? We have invested millions\billions in education already with poor results and will increasing spending payoff any better? Is the money really going towards teching or is education administration getting to big? Personaly like many problems we are facing across the board with economy, crime, and education I think it's a society problem(s). Teachers can only do so much but if the parents are doing nothing at home to keep the kids in line the effort & money is wasted....

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  4. I have read the news articles and talked with teachers on this, the arguement is "we have to support education". Over the past 3 or 4 years the school board has made cuts but have those cuts had a detrimental impact on the quality of education for the county? Have test scores suffered? Has drop out rates increased? Have more schools failed on the SOL scores? Have area schools lost accredation? When i have asked these questions to justify this increase of funds to those who want this tax increase for education they change the subject or respond with the "we have to support education".

    If the answers to my questions are "yes" then i would support more taxes for education. I have a feeling that the answer to those questions are "no" and the whole "support education" argument is to simply increase ones monthly paycheck at the expense of the taxpayers.

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  5. Seem to get the same type of response when you bring up making changes to the Social Security, food stamp programs and the likes. Many like to spin it back as if you want to take food out of mouths or take medicine away. The programs are headed to failure if we do not make changes and something haqs to be done....

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  6. Raise my taxes !!
    Sure, go ahead if we really need to, but how will we know it was any good? After all of the billions we have spent how come the grades are still so low as compared to countries where they spend half of what we spend per pupil? Maybe it's because the kids today are the product of their parents who when they were in school they had nobody pushing them to learn so the next generation is going to be the same. Teachers cant do it all if the parents do not "parent" at home!

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